Yo creo que Tuomas nos ha "mentido" como un bellaco y que sí que tiene más fondo autobiografico de lo que nos quiere hacer crear. Más que nada porque ha nacido de su cabecilla y si no es el 100%, pónle el 95%, de lo que sale de ahí tiene tintes autobiograficos.
Ya solo el hecho de tratar el tema de la "infancia perdida"... está más que claro que la ideologia de Tuomas estará muy, muy presente.

Y, efectiwonder, los miembros de la banda tendrán papeles muy pequeñitos, anécdoticos, y quizás sí que darán alguna línea, pero no será el "gran papel". En el caso de Tuomas y Anette puede que sí sea más importante, pues los dos encarnan personajes principales en otros momentos de su vida.
Me aventuraría a decir que Tom (Tuomas) tuvo de amiga de la infancia a Ann (Anette), o que quizás tubieran un romance en su juventud, pues los dos personajes aparecen con varias edades. Y, no sé porqué, pero creo que Marco hará de maestro de ceremonias de un circo o algo parecido... Es una corazonada influenciada por Scaretale, sí, pero... no sé, creo que será así xD

Aiako escribió:

Me aventuraría a decir que Tom (Tuomas) tuvo de amiga de la infancia a Ann (Anette), o que quizás tubieran un romance en su juventud

Si ocurre eso en la peli,tenemos el morbo servido en bandeja de plata.Espero por el bien de Tuomas y la banda que no haya sido tan imprudente como para meter algo así en una peli que todo el mundo considera basada en su vida.

Habrá que esperar a ver... pero sin duda es un interesante análisis el que planteas Aiako, sin embargo no creo que eso sea así... como dice Sharky, aunque Tuomas diga que no él sabe que el 90% (como muy poco) de esa peli es autobiográfico... Así que no creo que sirva un morbo tan grande así como así... pero bueno, ya veremos

Imagino que se tratará más de amigos de infancia que en la juventud se vuelven a encontrar, aunque también se podría tratar de una niñita amiga del Tom adulto.

Lo que sí que está claro es que Tom tiene tres etapas (10, 47 y 70 años), y Ann tiene dos (8 y 30-40, que será la interpretada por Nettie).
Hay una actriz, Joanna Noyes, que podria bien ser Ann vieja, pues en imbd está listada después de las dos Ann y parece tener una edad avanzada.

Mirando el videoclip de Storytime (que tiene mucha más info que a simple vista...) confirmo la hipótesi de que Marco nos hará de maese de ceremonias (2.09).
Estaria genial si alguien pudiera confirmar si la niña con la que Tuomas "pelea" es Victoria Jung (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2713694720/nm4707700) o Madison McAleer (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2225976064/nm4011372). Si fuese Victoria Jung, estaria claro que Ann fue sólo una niñita "amiga" del Tom adulto.

Ale, ya basta de hacer de Sherlock por hoy.

Aiako escribió:

Imagino que se tratará más de amigos de infancia que en la juventud se vuelven a encontrar, aunque también se podría tratar de una niñita amiga del Tom adulto.

Lo que sí que está claro es que Tom tiene tres etapas (10, 47 y 70 años), y Ann tiene dos (8 y 30-40, que será la interpretada por Nettie).
Hay una actriz, Joanna Noyes, que podria bien ser Ann vieja, pues en imbd está listada después de las dos Ann y parece tener una edad avanzada.

Mirando el videoclip de Storytime (que tiene mucha más info que a simple vista...) confirmo la hipótesi de que Marco nos hará de maese de ceremonias (2.09).
Estaria genial si alguien pudiera confirmar si la niña con la que Tuomas "pelea" es Victoria Jung (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2713694720/nm4707700) o Madison McAleer (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2225976064/nm4011372). Si fuese Victoria Jung, estaria claro que Ann fue sólo una niñita "amiga" del Tom adulto.

Ale, ya basta de hacer de Sherlock por hoy.

según wikipedia aparece Victoria Jung en el reparto, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginaerum_(film))

para mi la niña es la de Ever dream, the girl in white

white night escribió:

Aiako escribió:

Estaria genial si alguien pudiera confirmar si la niña con la que Tuomas "pelea" es Victoria Jung (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2713694720/nm4707700) o Madison McAleer (http://www.imdb.es/media/rm2225976064/nm4011372). Si fuese Victoria Jung, estaria claro que Ann fue sólo una niñita "amiga" del Tom adulto.

según wikipedia aparece Victoria Jung en el reparto, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginaerum_(film))

Sí, sí, las dos niñas aparecen en el reparto. Jung interpreta a Ann de niña y McAleer interpreta a "Niña huerfana".
Sólo queria saber si esa niña de allí era Jung o McAleer para, como digo... "Si fuese Victoria Jung, estaria claro que Ann fue sólo una niñita "amiga" del Tom adulto."

No sé si se enteraron de esto, pero está abierta hasta hoy la oportunidad de enviar sus preguntas al director de la peli, Stobe Harju, en el sitio de Nightwish USA http://nightwishusa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=156

Imaginaerum ya tiene fecha de estreno, el largometraje será estrenado el 8 de agosto con una proyección especial para los fans en el Hartwall Arena de Helsinki, Finlandia, y es posible que se exhiba en el festival de Cannes.

Y yo opino que nos deberian de mandar entradas....xDDDDD

Morgana85 escribió:

Imaginaerum ya tiene fecha de estreno, el largometraje será estrenado el 8 de agosto con una proyección especial para los fans en el Hartwall Arena de Helsinki, Finlandia, y es posible que se exhiba en el festival de Cannes.

Y yo opino que nos deberian de mandar entradas....xDDDDD

Jajaja y el billete de avión XD

death_dreams escribió:

Morgana85 escribió:

Imaginaerum ya tiene fecha de estreno, el largometraje será estrenado el 8 de agosto con una proyección especial para los fans en el Hartwall Arena de Helsinki, Finlandia, y es posible que se exhiba en el festival de Cannes.

Y yo opino que nos deberian de mandar entradas....xDDDDD

Jajaja y el billete de avión XD

por pedir que no falte, además pone pase especial para fans, esto es una fan page, les hacemos propaganda gratis!!! ¿qué más quieren?? xD

que ganas de verla! aún queda un poco lejos ese 8 de agosto, espero que den algún trailer o algo antes.
en Cannes y todo... haber si hubiera posibilidad de verla en algún cine

Pues de abril a agosto sí que hay bastante xD Bueno, qué más da, si llevaba 5 años esperando a que NW hiciera algo nuevo.

Por fin fecha

Es verdad, después de todo lo que hemos esperado a que sacaran algo nuevo, unos meses más aguantamos...

Y las fechas sí que son importantes XD

Morgana85 escribió:

Imaginaerum ya tiene fecha de estreno, el largometraje será estrenado el 8 de agosto con una proyección especial para los fans en el Hartwall Arena de Helsinki, Finlandia, y es posible que se exhiba en el festival de Cannes.

Y yo opino que nos deberian de mandar entradas....xDDDDD

de dónde sacaste la info? *_*
por favor, que la traigan aquí aunque sea subtitulada y directa a DVD... xD

Willgon escribió:

Morgana85 escribió:

Imaginaerum ya tiene fecha de estreno, el largometraje será estrenado el 8 de agosto con una proyección especial para los fans en el Hartwall Arena de Helsinki, Finlandia, y es posible que se exhiba en el festival de Cannes.

Y yo opino que nos deberian de mandar entradas....xDDDDD

de dónde sacaste la info? *_*
por favor, que la traigan aquí aunque sea subtitulada y directa a DVD... xD

De RafaBasa, fallo mío por no poner el link, pero aquí lo tenéis:

http://www.rafabasa.com/2012/02/nightwish-slash-bret-michaels-l-a-guns-cynic-tarantula-skydancer/

Nueva actualización de Stobe Harju

IMAGINAERUM – Update from Stobe Harju (14.3.2012)
de Imaginaerum, el miércoles, 14 de marzo de 2012 a la(s) 13:52 ·
Dear friends of Nightwish and Imaginaerum.

Where should I begin. Much has happened since the last update, too much, to write you another one.

Last months have been a battle getting all the required visual effects into the film as they deserve to be made. As I'm writing this update, the people in Montreal are working hard on the visuals. Since we are still in this stage the teaser trailer and trailer edit have had to wait for a while.

As some of you might have seen from Twitter, the film has reached a picture lock. It means, that no more raw editing will be done for the film and all the shots have their final length so that the visual effects team can finalize them. Naturally, it doesn't stop there.

What we have done during the past month has been looking through the film and doing a list of all the adr (additional dialogue recording). In short. Dig out the script, watch the film, see where the lines can be improved or new lines added, mark them down, send them out, close the script, lock the bastard, get the actors to do some new lines, record them, mix and sync them over the old lines in the film and voilà we have the final top quality dialogue for the movie. Sounds mundane, but many of the films have improved greatly because of this procedure.

The soundtrack on Petri Alanko's desk is doing great. After the last edit for the film, there were many things that made the guy literally pull his hair out of his head. I guess it's sync issues mainly. Nevertheless, the band is very impressed of what they've heard so far and remember, there's only going to be a few original songs from Imaginaerum album because the rest will have a more cinematic nature to them. I've asked Petri to write an update specifically to you all who are reading this since I gather, you all are getting fairly bored reading my scribbles only.

As I was visiting Nightwish, Helsinki gig on last saturday with some friends, Including Petri Alanko, I was pretty sure we got some shivering ideas of what you, the Nightwish fans, would like to hear in the film. Anyway, Nightwish was fantastic as always and I really got some kicks getting to see the old friends in the backstage once again. Emotional stuff.

As usual, saving the best for last is the obvious thing to do. The teaser trailer is on my desk at the moment, meaning that the editing for the raw version will begin shortly. This will take some time though, because the visual effects that should be in the teaser are still work in progress, there's the sound mixing and coloring to do for those parts of the film and therefore we cannot predict the date, but it's coming out sooner or later anyway. Hopefully sooner dear friends.

In the meanwhile, have a magical spring time waiting for that winter's last snowflake (wink).

Stobe Harju - The Director, Imaginaerum (Helsinki, Finland 12th March, 2012)

lo cual significa que se acerca el teaser trailer *_* madre mia que ganas de verlo... tengo una curiosidad enorme por saber cómo lo harán todo *_*

Willgon escribió:

lo cual significa que se acerca el teaser trailer *_* madre mia que ganas de verlo... tengo una curiosidad enorme por saber cómo lo harán todo *_*

Ya somos 2 XD

Ohh qué buenas noticias! Qué ganas de ver algo!! =) A ver si dicen algo oficial sobre el estreno, o sobre la publicación, que en realidad me interesa más, ya que será imposible ir al Hartwall xD

Petri Alanko - Imaginaerum The Movie soundtrack
de Imaginaerum, el Domingo, 25 de marzo de 2012 a la(s) 14:46 ·
Hi everyone, it's Petri Alanko here. Since July 2011 I've been working on Imaginaerum The Movie soundtrack based on the album multitrack sessions and the original songs by Tuomas (and one by Marco). I'm afraid some of my text will be more or less technical mumbo-jumbo, but I'll try and keep it as readable as it's humanly possible for yours truly.

A brief history: I met Stobe Harju whilst working with Remedy Entertainment's "Alan Wake" XBOX game for which I composed the soundtrack. I worked briefly, yet closely with Stobe during the game's cinematic cue production phase. To be honest, he must have enjoyed to make me cry, really. Every visual thing he ever showed me brought me to tears. Obviously he didn't hate me much, as I'm here again - and it's been a damn funky ride! Better than any theme park ride, this; at times you feel the wind on your face and things just couldn't come any better, no matter what you do. Then there's that one occasional moment of "how the eff do I turn this 16 bar riff into a 9 minute monster?", a thought repeatedly waking me up at nights for what seemed like a week. Oh, the agony - and how simple and elegant the solution eventually was! A lot of things have just clicked, which makes this one of my most enjoyable jobs ever and definitely the most original one. What I do is a passion, not a profession. I do make a living out of it, but without the spark that ignites me the living would suck.

Indeed, the sparks were many in this project. Let me elaborate a bit.

The process of turning an album track full of orchestra, keyboards, bass, guitars, Uilleann pipes, percussion and vocals into a mayhem of grief, misery, joy, yearning or wonder is not an easy one. It's a method of analysis combined with the gut feeling, at its best. I think I utilized some serious "blinking" (quick decisioning, a term borrowed from Malcolm Gladwell) during the pre-production phase: I had to listen to and through every single track of every song on Nightwish's Imaginaerum ProTools multitrack sessions - and cut out and paint green every "ok" snippet. If a certain thing sounded like it would benefit from further processing, I'd paint it orange or yellow, depending on my mindset (or a process anticipated for that particular cutout). Yellow meant simply "retune", orange "beat the shit out of it no matter what". Retuning usually meant throwing pitches around until the original sample was no longer recognizable… The decisions had to be made presto prestissimo, as I rapidly understood the more I thought of something, the more the original idea dissolved.

I remember one day particularly well, in the very beginning. I had been working on a single track for the whole day, drinking about 7-8 espresso shots, and finally the last track was cut into grays (no-go), greens, yellows and oranges. The arrange page seemed a bit crowded, so I decided to select only the colored sections… and I think I crapped my pants a bit then: there were - I just checked this - 1073 tiny sections separated from their original tracks, in one song alone. Multiply that number by the amount of songs on the album, and you come across with a number such as about 12773, which my "Imaginaerum raw material" folder tells me whenever I hit cmd-I. (The size of the folder is 7.94 GB, by the way. That's a lot of raw material, in other words.) After a weekend off, I did a second run for the material, and to my surprise, I didn't have to do much additions or corrections.

Some of those snippets were then turned into keymaps, them into instruments, instruments were combined to form multi-instruments - and little by little I had managed to develop myself a virtual Nightwish! Well, not really, as they were only single sounds, not pieces of performances as such. However, I did create some tempo-lockable guitar/bass instruments, shredding Nightwish riffs from one key only - and I could switch the key while they played - but these instruments were often used underneath the orchestral sections, to provide some extra "oomph", and you can _not_ hear them playing solo anywhere on the soundtrack. What's loud and sounds like a guitar or bass, it's Emppu or Marco. Period. I did similar stuff for Jukka's drums (again tempolockable) but this time I ran a lot of his stuff through different resonators and filters. Often I took the tom tracks only, picked up a rhythm from his playing and used that rhythm to control the pitches I was putting into a resonator by a keyboard. The result sounds like a percussive huge bass instrument and must be heard to believe… also, some of the vocals were turned into choirs or manic chanting. Marco's demonic "down down, deeper down" in Ghostriver redefined word "scary" after a treatment. You wouldn't want to hear that at night, I promise. At least my neighbour didn't - and he lived 20 meters away. Lived. Moved. Marco's chanting is used on a dark gray field, by the way... I did use "commercial libraries" as well, but wanted to rely on what I had on the Imaginaerum hard drive.

(A side note: I was constantly amazed throughout the process due to the fact every song still sounds like a proper Nightwish track, thanks to the strong personalities behind the performances. You can't fade or mutilate true passion. Period.)

It's probably pointless to say the number of tracks per song/cue turned into nightmarish amounts pretty soon after I had started. I've never been a fan of "let's just put that trendy Casio shit on and sing on top of it" method, and Nightwish are even less so. These two combined = oh holy crap and a thousand portaloos… "Last Ride Of The Day" alone had 327 tracks altogether when it went to mix, of which about 100 from the band itself, and the rest was put in to emphasize the action of the scene in which it was needed. In some cases I had to keep two spare computers running Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 (a virtual instrument networking application, not an orchestra plugin), slaved to my master computer. Yes, master had two slaves - hmm... I wish I had some assistants, too.

I know some of you keep on repeating "Why all this hassle? Why must that nasty bloke destroy everything we love?", I'm sure. Movie scores are a different beast. It's not about egotripping or hating original music (I _love_ it, by the way, I, too, am a fan. "Hello, my name is Petri and I'm a Nightwish fan."), it's about emphasizing the picture and the storyline. Grabbing the essence and rebuilding emotions selectively onto that. Some wiser man (must have been my piano teacher) said movie scores build tools for "dissecting the dreams we see and turn them into consolations or encouragement". There are two (well, three to be honest) tracks that were left as is: Slow, Love, Slow and Scaretale. The third is I Want My Tears Back, sort of.

One by one the songs of Imaginaerum The Album have reformed - transformed - into a soundtrack. It hasn't been easy - and hey, it shouldn't have been; in creative field, comfort zones are for suckers and nine-to-five people. One has to trust the "gut feeling", though. No use to choose the hard way just because it's there. Some things have transformed themselves almost by accident, whereas some have taken a slightly longer time. It's been a damn good ride, and there are still a few good curves ahead - but I can already see the final straight of this rollercoaster, and all you people waiting for your turn on the platform, soon joining the ride. I'm thrilled to be a tiny part of your experience.

There have been a few times when I've wished there was a shotgun in my studio, but only a few. Much more often it was the wind machine that was missed. Or a wedge monitor on the floor onto which to rest my leg. Or a fog machine. A multi-kilowatt PA. A crowd of >20000 people... Heh, the amount of air guitar played in this room has months ago gone through the roof. The end result is going to sound magical, and fear not: I cannot spoil any of it, the original songs and themes are that strong. I'm mixing/cutting the fourth reel (of five) and I can't wait to see this on the big screen.

To be a part of this realising dream is a privilege, and I cannot express my gratitude and pride in an appropriate way; sometimes words just _aren't_ enough. I hope the soundtrack recites wiser words than what I just did.

"My god, it's full of sparks!"

-Petri

Por fin ya podemos ver el teaser trailer de la película!!

Por fin! breve,pero intenso

Morgana85 escribió:

Por fin ya podemos ver el teaser trailer de la película!!

Acababa de abrir yo un topic XD, pero bueno, que lo borren y dejen esto aquí que casi que está mejor

muy breve pero me ha encantado!! qué ganas de verla ya!!